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Kenneth A. Egol, Mohana Amirtharajah, Nirmal C. Tejwani, Edward L. Capla, and Kenneth J. Koval
- Ankle Stress Test for Predicting the Need for Surgical Fixation of Isolated Fibular Fractures
J Bone Joint Surg Am 2004; 86: 2393-2398
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Dr. Egol and Colleagues respond to Dr. Hermans, et al.
- Kenneth A. Egol, M.D., Mohana Amirtharajah, M.D., Nirmal C. Tejwani, M.D., Edward L. Capla, M.D. and Kenneth J. Koval, M.D.
(24 March 2005)
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Statistical analysis
- John J Hermans, Annechien Beumer, Paul G.H. Mulder
(24 March 2005)
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Ankle Stress Test for Predicting the Need for Surgical Fixation of Isolated Fibular Fractures
- Gunasekaran Kumar
(11 January 2005)
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Drs. Tejwani and Egol respond to Dr. Kumar
- Nirmal C. Tejwani, Kenneth Egol, M.D.
(11 January 2005)
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Utility of Ankle Stress Radiograph
- Dhiren S. Sheth, Catherine Ambrose
(11 January 2005)
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Dr. Egol responds to Dr. Sheth
- Nirmal C. Tejwani, Kenneth Egol, M.D.
(11 January 2005)
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Drs. Egol and Koval respond to Dr. Elhance
- Kenneth A. Egol, Kenneth J. Koval
(7 December 2004)
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Radiographic Indicators of Ankle Instability
- John F. Kragh, Jr., M.D., Jon C. Thompson, M.D., MAJ, MC, USA
(7 December 2004)
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Drs. Egol and Koval respond to Drs. Kragh and Thompson
- Kenneth A. Egol, Kenneth J. Koval
(7 December 2004)
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Stage 4 Supination External Rotation Injuries about the Ankle
- Abhay Elhence
(29 November 2004)
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Dr. Egol and Colleagues respond to Dr. Hermans, et al. |
24 March 2005 |
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Kenneth A. Egol, M.D., Assistant Professor, Chief, Orthopedic Trauma Service Hospital for Joint Diseases, New York University Medical Center, NY, NY, 10003, Mohana Amirtharajah, M.D., Nirmal C. Tejwani, M.D., Edward L. Capla, M.D. and Kenneth J. Koval, M.D.
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Re: Dr. Egol and Colleagues respond to Dr. Hermans, et al.
ljegol{at}att.net Kenneth A. Egol, M.D., et al.
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To the editor:
We have double checked
to make sure that the values reported in the published paper use the
correct formula for sensitivity and specificity for the data in the table
below, and they do(1). We also double-checked the wording in the results section to verify that
it is correct in how it reports the findings, and we believe it does so.
Given this, we think that what is going on is that you are trying to recreate
this table using the data that were reported in our paper. However,
our paper does not show the entire table (at the time we revised the paper
for publication it was our understanding that the reviewers preferred just
reporting sensitivity and specificity rather than the raw data. We have
attached, for your benefit, the table with the complete data, (see below).
This may be the source of difficulty.
The published paper gives the following values: sensitivity,
specificity, the total number of cases where medial space >= 4mm, and
the number of cases where medial space >=4 mm and the clinical sign was
present. Given these data alone, the reader could easily calculate the
number of cases that had medial spacing >=4 mm without the clinical
sign, simply by subtracting the number of cases with the clinical sign
from 66.
However, the reader would not be able to do the same thing for cases
where medial spacing is less than 4 mm. To do that, they would have to
calculate the number of cases without the symptom where medial clear space
was less than 4 mm by using the reported value of sensitivity. For medial
tenderness, the calculation would be 80% of 35, which is 28. Then the
number of cases with medial tenderness among those where medial space <
4 mm would be 35 – 28 = 7.
Consequently, we speculate that the reader is trying to back-
calculate to verify the calculations of sensitivity and specificity, and
is running into some difficulty, perhaps because of some confusion in
reading the text accurately.
We appreciate and value your comment and interest. Feel free to
contact me if I can be of any further help in answering questions or
clarifying the findings of the study.
| Clinical Sign |
X-ray Finding |
Row Totals |
Sensitivity |
Specificity |
| >= 4 mm |
< 4 mm |
| Medial Tenderness |
Present |
37 |
7 |
44 |
56% |
80% |
| Absent |
29 |
28 |
57 |
| Swelling |
Present |
36 |
10 |
46 |
55% |
71% |
| Absent |
30 |
25 |
55 |
| Ecchymosis |
Present |
17 |
3 |
20 |
26% |
91% |
| Absent |
49 |
32 |
81 |
| Tenderness and Swelling |
Present |
26 |
3 |
29 |
39% |
91% |
| Absent |
40 |
32 |
72 |
| Tenderness and Ecchymosis |
Present |
13 |
1 |
14 |
20% |
97% |
| Absent |
53 |
34 |
87 |
| Swelling and Ecchymosis |
Present |
14 |
3 |
17 |
21% |
91% |
| Absent |
52 |
32 |
84 |
| Column Totals |
66 |
35 |
101 |
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Sincerely,
Kenneth A. Egol, M.D., et al.
References:
1.Hulley SB, Cummings SR. Designing Clinical Research:
An Epidemiological Approach. Baltimore, MD: Williams & Wilkins; 1988). |
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Statistical analysis |
24 March 2005 |
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John J Hermans, Radiologist Erasmus MC Rotterdam, The Netherlands, Annechien Beumer, Paul G.H. Mulder
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j.j.hermans{at}erasmusmc.nl John J Hermans, et al.
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To the editor:
With great interest we read the article of Egol et al. about the use
of the ankle stress test in detecting injury of the deltoid ligament. Assessment of the integrity of the deltoid ligament is of importance
in classifying an isolated fracture of the fibula. In supination eversion
trauma it means the difference between a SE II and SE IV stage with a
recommended nonoperative and operative treatment respectively.
We would like to comment on your statistical analysis. Probably due
to a slip of the pen the specificity in your paper is defined as the
number of cases with a negative clinical sign divided by the total number
of cases with a medial clear space ˇÝ4mm. With the correction medial
clear space <4mm instead of medial clear space ˇÝ4mm this problem is
solved.
However we cannot reproduce the sensitivity and specificity values
you present in table 1. According to our calculations the sensitivity and
specificity for medial tenderness are 55% (36/66) resp 83% (29/35); for
swelling 55% (36/66) resp 91% (32/35) and for ecchymosis 26% (17/66) resp
94% (33/35).
Additional calculations show a positive predictive value for
tenderness, swelling and ecchymosis of 86% (36/42), 92% (36/39) and 90%
(17/19) respectively. The negative predictive value for tenderness,
swelling and ecchymosis is 49% (29/59), 52% (32/62) and 40% (33/82)
respectively.
A low negative predictive value means that the deltoid ligament can
still be ruptured in absence of clinical signs. If medial tenderness,
ecchymosis and swelling are used to 'upgrade' a fracture from SE II to SE
IV it will result in an indication to operate. In some cases surgery may
be performed on stable ankles, as inferred from the moderate positive
predictive values.
Since the interrelationship between the test regarding tenderness,
swelling and ecchymosis is not presented we could not evaluate the
sensitivity and specificity with respect to the combinations of these
clinical signs.
Although the data in your article on sensitivity and specificity are
not completely correct the overall conclusion remains that clinical signs
are not reliable parameters in the evaluation of deltoid injury. We
therefore suggest that in specific cases MRI can be of additional value.
With this technique absence or presence of deltoid injury can be
accurately detected (1,2,3).
In addition to the outcome of the ankle stress test the surgeon can than
make a balanced decision to operate on an unstable supination eversion
fibula fracture avoiding the stress of a wrong treatment.
The best
radiographic parameter to evaluate the deltoid ligament is the ratio of
the medial clear space and the superior clear space. A ratio greater than
one is indicative of deltoid injury (4).
1. Boss AP, Hintermann B. Anatomical study of the medial ankle
ligament complex. Foot Ankle Int. 2002 Jun;23(6):547-53.
2. Muhle C et al. Collateral Ligaments of the Ankle: High-Resolution
MR Imaging with a Local Gradient Coil and Anatomic Correlation in
Cadavers. Radiographics. 1999 May-Jun;19(3):673-83.
3. Klein MA. MR imaging of the ankle: normal and abnormal findings in
the medial collateral ligament. AJR Am J Roentgenol. 1994 Feb;162(2):377-
83.
4. A. Beumer et al. Radiographic measurement of the distal
tibiofibular syndesmosis has limited use. Clinical Orthopaedics and
Related Research 2004, nr 423, pp 227-234. |
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Ankle Stress Test for Predicting the Need for Surgical Fixation of Isolated Fibular Fractures |
11 January 2005 |
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Gunasekaran Kumar, Specialist Registrar, Trauma and Orthopaedics
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Re: Ankle Stress Test for Predicting the Need for Surgical Fixation of Isolated Fibular Fractures
gunasekarankumar{at}hotmail.com Gunasekaran Kumar
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To the Editor:
I read this article with interest as it looked into a common clinical
dilemma, but the study does raise a few questions:
Did any of the ‘relatively undisplaced’
fractures, especially in the group I, displace after stress radiographs?
One of the aims of the study was to look into the non operative
management of stage IV supination-external rotation injury with positive
stress radiography but the authors operated on 36/66 patients with this
kind of injury and of the remaining 30 they did not randomise. Since, the
paper is looking into the non operative management of stage IV supination-
external rotation injury all 66 patients should have been randomised.
Figure 1-D shows widening of the medial clear space but the lateral wall of
the medial malleolus is not a sharp line as in figure 1-E. Hence, how did the
authors decide where the lateral wall of the medial malleolus was?
Measuring the medial clear space is often fraught with difficulties
especially when the lateral border of the medial malleolus is not a sharp
line, hence, showing inter observer reliability would have been more
appropriate.
How often did the group I patients have radiographs of their ankles
during the follow up and did they have a change of cast once the swelling
settled?
Statistical significance for comparing medial clear space widening
between patients with a positive stress radiograph with or with out medial
signs has to be taken into consideration. As the numbers to
treat have not been calculated, providing confidence intervals might have
provided more clarity. Similarly, positive and negative predictive values
of the clinical signs could have also been described.
Ankle fractures are often quite painful. The authors did not mention if
any of the patients found it difficult or painful while stress radiographs
were performed. |
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Drs. Tejwani and Egol respond to Dr. Kumar |
11 January 2005 |
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Nirmal C. Tejwani, M.D. NYU-Hospital for Joint Diseases, 301 E. 17th St., New York, NY 10003, Kenneth Egol, M.D.
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Re: Drs. Tejwani and Egol respond to Dr. Kumar
nirmal.tejwani{at}med.nyu.edu Nirmal C. Tejwani, et al.
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To the Editor:
We thank Dr. Kumar for his interest in our article.
In our study, all patients with a positive stress radiograph and clinical
signs of medial injury were considered to be SE-IV injuries and were
treated surgically. Of the remaining patients (30) the functional outcome
in the group of patients treated surgically or non-surgically was similar
(AOFAS score of 93 v 94). The patients were not randomized and were
treated according to surgeon and patient preference.
All patients meeting the eligibility criteria stated in the material and
methods section were included. All patients were able to tolerate the
stress view without significant discomfort and were prescribed pain
medication as needed.
Sincerely,
Nirmal Tejwani, MD
Kenneth Egol, MD |
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Utility of Ankle Stress Radiograph |
11 January 2005 |
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Dhiren S. Sheth, Physician University of Texas Health Science Center- Houston, Catherine Ambrose
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Re: Utility of Ankle Stress Radiograph
Dhiren.S.Sheth{at}uth.tmc.edu Dhiren S. Sheth, et al.
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To the Editor:
We reviewed the article, “Ankle Stress Test for Predicting the
Need for Surgical Fixation of Isolated Fibula Fracture” (2004;86:2393-
2398) By Egol et al at our monthly journal club. We are writing this letter
on behalf of our journal club.
A number of conclusions made by the authors were not supported by the
data presented in the paper. The authors stated that the study supported
an algorithm that directs patients with a negative stress radiograph and no medial
symptoms to be treated non-operatively. However, the only data supporting this conclusion was that
“all of the thirty-five patients … had clinical and
radiographic evidence of healing” No functional or follow-up radiographic
data were provided. This group would represent a supination-external
rotation stage 2 pattern of injury and non-operative management is
accepted as standard of care. However, a more detailed analysis of this group to
support the authors’ impression would be helpful.
One of the stated goals of the paper was to “determine the functional
outcome of nonoperative treatment despite a diagnosis of supination-
external rotation stage IV injury based on stress radiography”. However,
of 66 patients who were positive by stress radiography, only 10 were
treated nonoperatively (these were 10 of 30 patients without signs of
medial injury). In order to really fulfill this goal some of the patients
with medial signs would have had to be treated nonoperatively.
All patients with positive stress radiographs with medial evidence of
injury were treated operatively. Only a subgroup of patients with a positive
stress test and no evidence of medial injury were included in the study.
This subgroup was non-randomly divided into operative and non-operative
groups (selection bias). We therefore believe that no conclusion can be
drawn from the results. The utility of a stress test in predicting need for
surgical fixation of isolated lateral malleolus fracture still remains
unanswered.
We conclude that the only real way to test the utility of a stress
radiograph is to find out a) if it really indicates that deltoid ligament
is torn (perhaps MRI); and b) to conduct a study where all the patients with a
positive stress test with or without evidence of medial injury are
randomized into operative and non-operative groups. |
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Dr. Egol responds to Dr. Sheth |
11 January 2005 |
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Nirmal C. Tejwani, M.D. NYU-Hospital for Joint Diseases, 301 E. 17th St., New York, NY 10003, Kenneth Egol, M.D.
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nirmal.tejwani{at}med.nyu.edu Nirmal C. Tejwani, et al.
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To The Editor:
We thank Dr. Sheth and his colleagues for reviewing our article at
their journal club. In our paper we have attempted to assess the outcomes
of non-operatively treated fibula fractures despite a diagnosis of a
supination-external rotation Stage IV injury based on stress radiography.
Like most surgeons we do not routinely fix SE2 fracture patterns as we
believe these fractures will heal uneventfully. We did not evaluate the
functional outcome in this group as this was not the purpose or focus of
our study.
The patients who had a positive stress radiograph and clinical signs of
medial injury were considered to be SE-IV injuries and the patient was
treated surgically. It was the group that had a positive stress radiograph
and no medial clinical signs that was of interest to us and followed up
both clinically and radiographically. As stated in the manuscript the
functional outcome in the group of patients treated surgically or non-
surgically was similar (AOFAS score of 93 v 94).
We have stated that one of the limitations of our study was the small
number of patients with positive stress radiographs and negative clinical
findings on the medial side. The lack of randomization may have introduced
a selection bias toward non-operative treatment in older patients.
The use of the MRI may be beneficial in identifying medial
ligamentous injury, similar to the findings of interosseus membrane injury
described recently. (1)
Bibliography:
1. Nielson JH, Sallis JG, Potter HG, et al. Correlation of
interosseous membrane tears to the level of the fibular fracture. J Orthop
Trauma. 2004 Feb;18(2):68-74.
Sincerely,
Nirmal Tejwani, MD
Kenneth Egol, MD |
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Drs. Egol and Koval respond to Dr. Elhance |
7 December 2004 |
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Kenneth A. Egol, Physician NYU-Hospital for Joint Diseases Department of Orthopaedic Surgery, Kenneth J. Koval
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ljegol{at}worldnet.att.net Kenneth A. Egol, et al.
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To the Editor:
We thank Dr. Elhence for his letter. We agree with him that the
indications for surgery after isolated lateral malleolus fracture remains
uncertain. Based on our results, it seems that we are currently performing
surgery on some patients that could be treated successfully with non-
operative means. The problem remains on identifying those patients who
could and should be treated non-operatively. It is possible that other
imaging modalities such dynamic stress testing or MRI might be able to
better detect those patients who would benefit from surgical intervention.
Also, a true randomized clinical trial would be needed to determine the
best treatment method for treating potentially unstable fractures of the
ankle. The results of our study indicate the need for more research for
this common fracture.
Kenneth A. Egol MD
Kenneth J. Koval MD |
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Radiographic Indicators of Ankle Instability |
7 December 2004 |
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John F. Kragh, Jr., M.D., LTC(P), MC, USA Dept. of Orthopaedics, Brooke Army Medical Center, Fort Sam Houston, TX 78234-6200, Jon C. Thompson, M.D., MAJ, MC, USA
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Re: Radiographic Indicators of Ankle Instability
John.Kragh{at}amedd.army.mil John F. Kragh, Jr., M.D., et al.
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To the Editor:
We thank Egol et al. and McConnell et al. for their fine works on
deltoid ankle instability with fibula fractures.(1,2) We ask them to
consider replying to the ideas herein.
1. Women have smaller radiographic medial clear spaces than men,(3) and
the use of an absolute threshold introduces non-random error into
measurement of instability. An absolute threshold biases assessment
because of patient size.
2. Magnification variability due radiographic technique introduces
error when using an absolute distance measurement on radiographs to
represent an anatomical distance.
3. The operational definition of instability chosen by Egol et al.
and used as an indicator by McConnel et al., that is, a medial clear space
>4mm on a radiograph during stress examination without anesthesia, led
to some determinations of instability that were difficult to explain.(1,2)
Unstressed radiographic medial clear spaces are reportedly up to 5.5mm in
radiographs without fracture and about 8% are >4mm.(4) In cadaver ankles
with fibulas excised in simulation of ankle fracture with an intact
deltoid ligament, the medial clear space distance increased up to 2mm from
the resting distance when stressed due to deltoid laxity at rest.(5) As 4mm
may be too low a threshold at rest and up to 2mm more may be added when
stressed with the deltoid ligament intact, then laxity may need more
consideration in determining instability thresholds. Some of Egol et al.’s
patients may have been stressed >4mm yet have had intact superficial
and/or deep deltoid ligaments. The 4mm threshold historically is an
unstressed threshold, but both recent reports used it as stressed. An
explanation of the stressed-unstressed mismatch by the authors may help as
these problems with the 4mm absolute threshold may in part explain the
difficulties.
4. Radiographic indicators of ankle instability that address these
problems may perform better diagnostically. Conceivably, if the medial
clear space is divided by the superior clear space to get a relative index
of instability, then the problems of patient size bias, magnification
error, and the absolute threshold can be mitigated.
John F. Kragh, Jr. M.D.
LTC(P), MC, USA
Jon Thompson, M.D.
MAJ, MC, USA
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stress test for predicting the need for surgical fixation of isolated
fibular fractures. J Bone Joint Surg, 86A:2393-405, 2004.
2. McConnell T, Creery W, Tornetta P III. Stress examination of
supination external rotation-type fibular fractures. J Bone Joint Surg,
86A:2171-8, 2004.
3. Jonsson K. Fredin HO. Cederlund CG. Bauer M. Width of the normal
ankle joint. Acta Radiologica: Diagnosis. 25(2):147-9, 1984.
4. Brage ME, Bennett CR, Whitehurst JB, Getty PJ, Toledano A.
Observer reliability in ankle radiographic measurements, Foot Ankle Int,
18:324-9, 1997.
5. Close JR. Some applications of the functional anatomy of the ankle
joint. J Bone Joint Surg, 38A:761-81, 1956. |
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Drs. Egol and Koval respond to Drs. Kragh and Thompson |
7 December 2004 |
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Kenneth A. Egol, Physician NYU- Hospital for Joint Diseases Department of Orthopaedic Surgery, Kenneth J. Koval
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Re: Drs. Egol and Koval respond to Drs. Kragh and Thompson
ljegol{at}worldnet.att.net Kenneth A. Egol, et al.
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To the Editor:
We appreciate the letter from Drs. Kragh and Thompson regarding our
paper. We agree that there are certain gender specific anatomic
differences and potential error in measurement that may lead to bias. We
had attempted to correlate some very common subjective methods for
determining ankle instability with an objective one. We chose an absolute
threshold of 4 mm because that is the accepted amount of medial widening
accepted in our community. Our purpose was not to prove that an absolute
value of medial widening represents a pathologic condition, but rather to
show that accepted standards may not absolute.
We have biomechanical data
currently in press suggesting the absolute value of a pathologic medial
clear space is greater than 5 mm. Furthermore, individuals may have
varying degrees of ligamentous laxity that could skew results. We have
begun stressing the uninjured contralateral side in patients that sustain
an isolated fibula fracture in order to examine this possibility
Kenneth A. Egol MD
Kenneth J. Koval MD. |
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Stage 4 Supination External Rotation Injuries about the Ankle |
29 November 2004 |
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Abhay Elhence, Assistant Professor Orthopaedics Subharati Institute of Medical Sciences,Meerut ,India
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Re: Stage 4 Supination External Rotation Injuries about the Ankle
abhay_elhence{at}hotmail.com Abhay Elhence
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To the Editor :
I read the article, " Ankle Stress Test for Predicting the Need for
Surgical Fixation of the Isolated Fibular Fractures " with great interest and I congratulate the authors for their contribution to the management of supination external rotation injuries about the ankle .
While the literature is replete with articles in favour of and against
operative intervention for stage 4 Supination External Rotation Injuries
of the ankle (with or without positive stress Xrays and with or without
medial clinical signs, I believe the individual surgeon remains at a loss in such clinical situations with
treatment being governed to a large extent by personal whims or limited
surgical experiences in this gray zone ( Positive stress x- rays and
negative medial clinical signs ).
The best approach to answering the question of how to treat patients with a positive stress radiograph of the
ankle and negative medial clinical signs (especially medial joint tenderness
and ecchymoses) is to perform a functional evaluation study where patients are
subjected to a CT Scanogram of the injured and uninjured ankle joints and
subsequent treatment using operative and non operative methods are administered on a randomized basis . |
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